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		<title>By: CewFeeneclilk</title>
		<link>http://revsmilez.com/2008/08/09/open-source-sermon-topic/#comment-174</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.
God will appreciate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.<br />
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.<br />
God will appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Open Source Reprieve &#171; God Must Laugh</title>
		<link>http://revsmilez.com/2008/08/09/open-source-sermon-topic/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Open Source Reprieve &#171; God Must Laugh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I get back from camping on Sunday, so you have between now and then to add your suggestions to the Open Source Sermon Topic thread. I&#8217;ll give things a look once I get back and post Sunday night. Assuming all goes [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I get back from camping on Sunday, so you have between now and then to add your suggestions to the Open Source Sermon Topic thread. I&#8217;ll give things a look once I get back and post Sunday night. Assuming all goes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Les Shultz</title>
		<link>http://revsmilez.com/2008/08/09/open-source-sermon-topic/#comment-92</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my suggestion for a text for our sermon, &quot;Jesus, My Facebook Friend.&quot;

31“To what then will I compare the people of this generation, and what are they like? 32They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another,
	‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance;
	we wailed, and you did not weep.’
33For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon’; 34the Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ 35Nevertheless, wisdom is vindicated by all her children,” (Luke 7:31-35 NRSVA).

Jesus was and is the friend of tax collectors and sinners!

That includes us all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my suggestion for a text for our sermon, &#8220;Jesus, My Facebook Friend.&#8221;</p>
<p>31“To what then will I compare the people of this generation, and what are they like? 32They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another,<br />
	‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance;<br />
	we wailed, and you did not weep.’<br />
33For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon’; 34the Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ 35Nevertheless, wisdom is vindicated by all her children,” (Luke 7:31-35 NRSVA).</p>
<p>Jesus was and is the friend of tax collectors and sinners!</p>
<p>That includes us all!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://revsmilez.com/2008/08/09/open-source-sermon-topic/#comment-91</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say we can all pretty much agree that the tools have the digital age need to be used as just that, tools.  I think it&#039;s safe to say that noone is suggesting we do away with the &quot;brick and mortar&quot; Church, simply adding to it.  I agree that we need to ensure that we don&#039;t alienate those that are &quot;technologically challenged&quot;, it&#039;s a matter of balance, I&#039;d agree with Jason that we should aviod extremes on both ends, we shouldn&#039;t ignore tools of the digital age, and we shouldn&#039;t rely entirely upon them, we are after all, still people, and sometimes we still need a good old fashioned hug, &quot;all things for all men&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say we can all pretty much agree that the tools have the digital age need to be used as just that, tools.  I think it&#8217;s safe to say that noone is suggesting we do away with the &#8220;brick and mortar&#8221; Church, simply adding to it.  I agree that we need to ensure that we don&#8217;t alienate those that are &#8220;technologically challenged&#8221;, it&#8217;s a matter of balance, I&#8217;d agree with Jason that we should aviod extremes on both ends, we shouldn&#8217;t ignore tools of the digital age, and we shouldn&#8217;t rely entirely upon them, we are after all, still people, and sometimes we still need a good old fashioned hug, &#8220;all things for all men&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hanson</title>
		<link>http://revsmilez.com/2008/08/09/open-source-sermon-topic/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Hanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Perhaps we should realize the Internet can’t replace the physical body, but can be an aspect of it.&quot; I have no disagreement there. I&#039;m not trying to sidetrack anyone into an argument about the merits and demerits of a Church website or virtual Church. I&#039;m trying (*humph*) to stay on task by emphasizing a central concern regarding the body of Christ in the digital age. I think a collective or wiki-sermon on the topic of the body of believers should include some words about those outside the virtual circle, especially in light of 1Cor 12:20-27. I guess I was casting my vote for the last verses Ryan quoted (esp. vv. 20-27). My comments maybe haven&#039;t sounded very moderate, but I really just mean to avoid extremes. I&#039;m not suggesting we throw the baby out with the bath water.(I have many other cliches I could use here and not a few parables. Tune in next week for: &quot;There&#039;s more ways to get to the top of a tree than just sitting on an acorn&quot;:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps we should realize the Internet can’t replace the physical body, but can be an aspect of it.&#8221; I have no disagreement there. I&#8217;m not trying to sidetrack anyone into an argument about the merits and demerits of a Church website or virtual Church. I&#8217;m trying (*humph*) to stay on task by emphasizing a central concern regarding the body of Christ in the digital age. I think a collective or wiki-sermon on the topic of the body of believers should include some words about those outside the virtual circle, especially in light of 1Cor 12:20-27. I guess I was casting my vote for the last verses Ryan quoted (esp. vv. 20-27). My comments maybe haven&#8217;t sounded very moderate, but I really just mean to avoid extremes. I&#8217;m not suggesting we throw the baby out with the bath water.(I have many other cliches I could use here and not a few parables. Tune in next week for: &#8220;There&#8217;s more ways to get to the top of a tree than just sitting on an acorn&#8221;:)</p>
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		<title>By: ruhama</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a bit on Talk of the Nation today on NPR about how the Internet has actually isolated some people, which kind of goes with what Jason is saying--people don&#039;t have to have physical fellowship with one another (e.g. even grocery shopping can be done online). I believe it was part of this story:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93802002

So then the question is, what&#039;s the point of a church webpage? And how static should it be?

But, what about the person who&#039;s had surgery and can&#039;t get to church for a while? Or they have to work Sundays for the summer? Would the benefit of a church podcasting sermons be better than nothing? Perhaps we should realize the Internet can&#039;t replace the physical body, but can be an aspect of it. :shrug:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a bit on Talk of the Nation today on NPR about how the Internet has actually isolated some people, which kind of goes with what Jason is saying&#8211;people don&#8217;t have to have physical fellowship with one another (e.g. even grocery shopping can be done online). I believe it was part of this story:<br />
<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93802002" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93802002</a></p>
<p>So then the question is, what&#8217;s the point of a church webpage? And how static should it be?</p>
<p>But, what about the person who&#8217;s had surgery and can&#8217;t get to church for a while? Or they have to work Sundays for the summer? Would the benefit of a church podcasting sermons be better than nothing? Perhaps we should realize the Internet can&#8217;t replace the physical body, but can be an aspect of it. :shrug:</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Hanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I want to get on board with ministry in the digital age, and as much as I see the internet&#039;s effectiveness for mass communication of God&#039;s Word, I can&#039;t seem to shake the conviction that we are pushing the Church in the wrong direction. But I also think this conviction preaches and has relevance for the chosen topic.

In particular, I would emphasize the verses quoted above from 1Cor 12:12-31:

20 As it is, there are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 On the contrary, the members of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and those members of the body that we think less honorable we clothe with greater honor, and our less respectable members are treated with greater respect; 24 whereas our more respectable members do not need this. But God has so arranged the body, giving the greater honor to the inferior member, 25 that there may be no dissension within the body, but the members may have the same care for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all suffer together with it; if one member is honored, all rejoice together with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

But who are the &quot;inferior members&quot; in the context of the digital age? Is it those who are going hog-wild buying all the latest gadgets and teaching themselves several different computer languages in order to have the best looking Christian website (and thus win the virtual-conversion contest). Or is it the people whose lives are being controlled by a technical world and a process they do not understand? Those alienated from every community because their old way of doing things is obsolete and because every Church has switched over to a digital format?

If the internet becomes our primary means of loving God and loving our neighbor as ourself, aren&#039;t we saying to those of the body who are technologically illiterate, &quot;I have no need of you?&quot; Or &quot;Get caught up with the digital age or get out?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I want to get on board with ministry in the digital age, and as much as I see the internet&#8217;s effectiveness for mass communication of God&#8217;s Word, I can&#8217;t seem to shake the conviction that we are pushing the Church in the wrong direction. But I also think this conviction preaches and has relevance for the chosen topic.</p>
<p>In particular, I would emphasize the verses quoted above from 1Cor 12:12-31:</p>
<p>20 As it is, there are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 On the contrary, the members of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and those members of the body that we think less honorable we clothe with greater honor, and our less respectable members are treated with greater respect; 24 whereas our more respectable members do not need this. But God has so arranged the body, giving the greater honor to the inferior member, 25 that there may be no dissension within the body, but the members may have the same care for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all suffer together with it; if one member is honored, all rejoice together with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.</p>
<p>But who are the &#8220;inferior members&#8221; in the context of the digital age? Is it those who are going hog-wild buying all the latest gadgets and teaching themselves several different computer languages in order to have the best looking Christian website (and thus win the virtual-conversion contest). Or is it the people whose lives are being controlled by a technical world and a process they do not understand? Those alienated from every community because their old way of doing things is obsolete and because every Church has switched over to a digital format?</p>
<p>If the internet becomes our primary means of loving God and loving our neighbor as ourself, aren&#8217;t we saying to those of the body who are technologically illiterate, &#8220;I have no need of you?&#8221; Or &#8220;Get caught up with the digital age or get out?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the 2 scriptures I know of that most directly deal with the Body of Christ&quot;.  I might see if I can add more later.

1 Corinthians 12:12-31

12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 14 Indeed, the body does not consist of one member but of many. 15 If the foot would say, &quot;Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,&quot; that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear would say, &quot;Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,&quot; that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole body were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose. 19 If all were a single member, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, &quot;I have no need of you,&quot; nor again the head to the feet, &quot;I have no need of you.&quot; 22 On the contrary, the members of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and those members of the body that we think less honorable we clothe with greater honor, and our less respectable members are treated with greater respect; 24 whereas our more respectable members do not need this. But God has so arranged the body, giving the greater honor to the inferior member, 25 that there may be no dissension within the body, but the members may have the same care for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all suffer together with it; if one member is honored, all rejoice together with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers; then deeds of power, then gifts of healing, forms of assistance, forms of leadership, various kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But strive for the greater gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.&quot;

Ephesians 4:1-16

 I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, 3 making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling, 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all. 7 But each of us was given grace according to the measure of Christ&#039;s gift. 8 Therefore it is said, &quot;When he ascended on high he made captivity itself a captive; he gave gifts to his people.&quot; 9 (When it says, &quot;He ascended,&quot; what does it mean but that he had also descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is the same one who ascended far above all the heavens, so that he might fill all things.) 11 The gifts he gave were that some would be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, 13 until all of us come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to maturity, to the measure of the full stature of Christ. 14 We must no longer be children, tossed to and fro and blown about by every wind of doctrine, by people&#039;s trickery, by their craftiness in deceitful scheming. 15 But speaking the truth in love, we must grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by every ligament with which it is equipped, as each part is working properly, promotes the body&#039;s growth in building itself up in love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the 2 scriptures I know of that most directly deal with the Body of Christ&#8221;.  I might see if I can add more later.</p>
<p>1 Corinthians 12:12-31</p>
<p>12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body&#8211;Jews or Greeks, slaves or free&#8211;and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 14 Indeed, the body does not consist of one member but of many. 15 If the foot would say, &#8220;Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,&#8221; that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear would say, &#8220;Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,&#8221; that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole body were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose. 19 If all were a single member, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, &#8220;I have no need of you,&#8221; nor again the head to the feet, &#8220;I have no need of you.&#8221; 22 On the contrary, the members of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and those members of the body that we think less honorable we clothe with greater honor, and our less respectable members are treated with greater respect; 24 whereas our more respectable members do not need this. But God has so arranged the body, giving the greater honor to the inferior member, 25 that there may be no dissension within the body, but the members may have the same care for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all suffer together with it; if one member is honored, all rejoice together with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers; then deeds of power, then gifts of healing, forms of assistance, forms of leadership, various kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But strive for the greater gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ephesians 4:1-16</p>
<p> I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, 3 making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling, 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all. 7 But each of us was given grace according to the measure of Christ&#8217;s gift. 8 Therefore it is said, &#8220;When he ascended on high he made captivity itself a captive; he gave gifts to his people.&#8221; 9 (When it says, &#8220;He ascended,&#8221; what does it mean but that he had also descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is the same one who ascended far above all the heavens, so that he might fill all things.) 11 The gifts he gave were that some would be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, 13 until all of us come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to maturity, to the measure of the full stature of Christ. 14 We must no longer be children, tossed to and fro and blown about by every wind of doctrine, by people&#8217;s trickery, by their craftiness in deceitful scheming. 15 But speaking the truth in love, we must grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by every ligament with which it is equipped, as each part is working properly, promotes the body&#8217;s growth in building itself up in love.</p>
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		<title>By: revsmilez</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Found this vid on collaboration vs. institution. Fodder for consideration.  
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this vid on collaboration vs. institution. Fodder for consideration.<br />
<a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/clay_shirky_on_institutions_versus_collaboration.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ruhama</title>
		<link>http://revsmilez.com/2008/08/09/open-source-sermon-topic/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ruhama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So this morning one of the texts my pastor used was 2 Cor 5: 9-10 (his main topic was rewards Christians will get at judgement), which jumped out at me, as no matter where we are, we&#039;re still a part of the Body.

Something else I&#039;ve been thinking about is encouragement and how is that being accomplished in the church, especially digitally? It&#039;s so easy to misinterpret typed words or be cruel (especially if you can be anonymous), but the amount of time spent online is growing and may be the optimal way to reach or check up on some people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this morning one of the texts my pastor used was 2 Cor 5: 9-10 (his main topic was rewards Christians will get at judgement), which jumped out at me, as no matter where we are, we&#8217;re still a part of the Body.</p>
<p>Something else I&#8217;ve been thinking about is encouragement and how is that being accomplished in the church, especially digitally? It&#8217;s so easy to misinterpret typed words or be cruel (especially if you can be anonymous), but the amount of time spent online is growing and may be the optimal way to reach or check up on some people.</p>
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